Post by gman on Mar 21, 2008 16:48:47 GMT
Right folks. There are loads of posts about this under the 2007 thread, and i'm not sure if us 03-05 guys should be advising about that as the 07 is a different bike. Also there are a few 1000 guys posting, and that is different too (heavier). If anyone wants to copy their stuff to here, cool, i think we should have it all in one place. 
This might be useless, but if it helps one person, then thats good enough.
As you read in the other thread i'm trying to make the suspetion better, but not spend much on it eg, adjustable fork caps etc etc. Otherwize i would have just bought a Z1000 which is adjustable and has slightly better kit standard. My bike is a 2004 model and has done 2300miles.
I'd posted up setting for the 636 shock, but these have since changed. Before we start a big flame war, suspention settings are a very personal choice as two rider will want different things from the bike. I'd say set everthing in the middle and then adjust it to suit your riding as what works for one, wont work for the other guy. I'm 12stone with no kit, so anything here is set for my weight.
My mate has won national 250, 400 and 1000 championships and is a top 3 MRO Powerbike finisher and we had some time today to play with the Zed. Also his mechanic is a ex national 250 racer and he's doing the spanner work.
For road use the 04 636 shock is the same lengh as the std one which is important as it all works together with the linkage. The static sag was set at 13-15mm. The rebound damping was too soft, so it is now at 2 full turns from fully in. The compression damping was a bit too hard, so it's now at 1.5 turns from fully soft. You would think this would mean the rear will compress quickly on a bump, but then wont rebound (recover) fast enough and the rear would stay sucked down, but it's fine. The damping scales are different between rebound and compression, so it works well. This was all set after a hard run to make sure the shock oil was warm and at normal operating temp.
There seems to be a problem with the forks. If they are bounced lightly they are really soft with very little damping. This is causing the front to patter when it hits a bump and causes that vague feeling mid bend. But once they get further down the travel they seem to recover and are damping ok for the last part. The forks are getting removed from the bike this week and stripped for inspection. 1st thoughs are that the oil is airiated. I'll post up the results when i get them. But the rough plan just now is to use 15w oil, then play with the air gap to get it right.
If guys want to upgrade the fork springs and change the rear spring or revalve the shock then cool. That is the best way to do it, then get everything set to you weight and riding style. I just thought it would be good to have a thread for any new owners who are unhappy with the standard suspention and wanted to improve it on a budget.
Cheers folks.
This might be useless, but if it helps one person, then thats good enough.As you read in the other thread i'm trying to make the suspetion better, but not spend much on it eg, adjustable fork caps etc etc. Otherwize i would have just bought a Z1000 which is adjustable and has slightly better kit standard. My bike is a 2004 model and has done 2300miles.
I'd posted up setting for the 636 shock, but these have since changed. Before we start a big flame war, suspention settings are a very personal choice as two rider will want different things from the bike. I'd say set everthing in the middle and then adjust it to suit your riding as what works for one, wont work for the other guy. I'm 12stone with no kit, so anything here is set for my weight.
My mate has won national 250, 400 and 1000 championships and is a top 3 MRO Powerbike finisher and we had some time today to play with the Zed. Also his mechanic is a ex national 250 racer and he's doing the spanner work.
For road use the 04 636 shock is the same lengh as the std one which is important as it all works together with the linkage. The static sag was set at 13-15mm. The rebound damping was too soft, so it is now at 2 full turns from fully in. The compression damping was a bit too hard, so it's now at 1.5 turns from fully soft. You would think this would mean the rear will compress quickly on a bump, but then wont rebound (recover) fast enough and the rear would stay sucked down, but it's fine. The damping scales are different between rebound and compression, so it works well. This was all set after a hard run to make sure the shock oil was warm and at normal operating temp.
There seems to be a problem with the forks. If they are bounced lightly they are really soft with very little damping. This is causing the front to patter when it hits a bump and causes that vague feeling mid bend. But once they get further down the travel they seem to recover and are damping ok for the last part. The forks are getting removed from the bike this week and stripped for inspection. 1st thoughs are that the oil is airiated. I'll post up the results when i get them. But the rough plan just now is to use 15w oil, then play with the air gap to get it right.
If guys want to upgrade the fork springs and change the rear spring or revalve the shock then cool. That is the best way to do it, then get everything set to you weight and riding style. I just thought it would be good to have a thread for any new owners who are unhappy with the standard suspention and wanted to improve it on a budget.
Cheers folks.
